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Proposition 8 is bullsh*t, and Olbermann actually makes sense for once

Feel however you want about the issue, but I personally have serious issues with proposition 8.  We’ve already raised some issues with it in a previous post, but let me do a quick recap of the situation for you.

Same-sex marriage was legalized in California a few short months ago.  Proposition 8 was a referendum designed to amend the state constitution to restrict marriage as being between a man and a woman, and therefore overturn the decision of the California Supreme Court.

This is an issue I’ve never understood, mainly because I don’t see how it affects anyone other than the people trying to get married.  I understand completely that many people have religious objections to same-sex marriage and are therefore personally opposed to it.  That’s fine, but the disconnect is how that needs to force others not to be married.

In Canada, for example, same-sex marriage is illegal.  And yet, as part of the law, no religious organization (read: church, synagogue, temple, mosque, pagan flower circle or anything else) can be forced to perform the marriage.  No one is forcing anyone to go “against” their religious beliefs.  But same-sex couples are still allowed to marry.  And yet in California, a right that was so recently granted to these couples has been abruptly taken away.

Keith Olbermann, the left-wing Bill O’Reilly, is not someone I generally pay much attention to.  I hate demagoguery of any sort an have no patience for Olbermann’s arrogant style.  But he does make a surprisingly erudite grasp of the situation and actually phrases his concerns in a way that mirror my own.  Take a look.

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Yay for Obama, but thumbs down to the other ballot measures

We all sort of had high hopes for this grand new day since Obama got elected.  But as the results begin to trickle in, we see that it basically was one giant step forward, but two steps back at the same time.

The USA, or rather four states (Arizona, Florida, California, and Arkansas) seemed to fan the flames of intolerance and ran away from more equality overall.

Those four states did their best to ban same-sex marriage, a position I simply can’t wrap my head around.  Arkansas, for their part, passed a measure that prohibited unmarried couples from adopting a child.  This will especially prevent same-sex couples from ever adopting a child in the state (until the law is repealed).  To be fair, this measure does also prevent unmarried opposite-sex couples from adopting as well, which is simply another form of discrimination as there are excellent single parents out there, and quite a few terrible married couples.

California’s Proposition 8 is the most fascinating case study so far.  Recently, California went ahead and legalized same-sex marriage.  Now, just a few short months later, the voters have completely overturned it.

The ironic thing about this whole thing?  It probably wouldn’t have passed if Obama wasn’t so successful at mobilizing black and latino voters.   The major news sources seem to agree that blacks and latinos were more likely to vote in favour of Proposition 8.  The San Francisco Chronicle reports:

While Obama publicly backed the “No on Prop. 8” effort, African American voters had no trouble voting overwhelmingly for the man who will be the nation’s first black president and then voting 70 percent in favor of Prop. 8, exit polls showed.

It’s tremendous how much of a contradiction exists in society.  America is no different than many other places in the world, but I think it’s just remarkable how all of this happened in the same election.

In summary, three states “restricted” marriage to a man and a woman, one banned non-married couples from adopting.  Two more states defeated restrictions on abortion rights, and nationally the first black president was elected.

Very much a mixed message.  So don’t go celebrating yet, world.  There’s a lot of work to do.


California Supreme Court overturns gay marriage ban

In what is a huge step for the US, the California Supreme Court has struck down a law banning same-sex marriage as being unconstitutional.  In their own words, they say that

One of the core elements embodied in the state constitutional right to marry is the right of an individual and a couple to have their own official family relationship accorded respect and dignity equal to that accorded the family relationships of other couples,” wrote Chief Justice Ronald M. George, joined by Justices Joyce L. Kennard, Kathryn Mickle Werdegar and Carlos Moreno.

Unbelievable.  They’re arguing that people should be able to marry anyone they wish.  That’s the same argument that Canada used when they legalized same-sex marriage.  That’s something we here at 4080 stand behind, because equality is the number one most important aspect of any person’s right.

What’s even more impressive is that the mayor of LA has said he would officiate at same-sex marriages, and the Governator himself Arnold Schwarzenegger has said that he would abide by the ruling.  The issue is that in November there is a proposed measure to amend the state constitution to ban same-sex marriage.  This would overturn the Court ruling.  Arnie has said he would oppose this ballot measure, which is pretty bold for a Republican.  Here’s hoping he does.